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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:34 pm    Post subject: Nokia 6600 Reply with quote

Hi there,

I am having problems ising the peffisaur software to process MMS messages from a Nk 6600 on Orange UK.

If there are any other 6600 users please can they mail me?

My email is mrh@one-web.com

Many thanks

Matthew
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems you are not the only one. The last few days (has it been just released this phone?) I have gotten several questions like this (directly to me and not to the forum). It seems that they do something fundamentally different when sending MMS. Perhaps they use some field that I'm not yet parsing properly or something.

Rumour has it though that they are not sending any content-type (should be application/vnd.wap.mms-message) which is very strange. I cannot confirm this though as I don't have access to one myself. The send.php in both MMS Diary and Peffisaur checks the content-type and if it's not correct it will simply avoid any processing of the message. The reason for this was to avoid unnecessary processing when people by mistake (or voluntarily) do a GET or POST from a browser to send.php. If the rest of the message is ok however you could just remove that line from send.php and it would parse it properly. But, as I said, this is all based on speculations from that rumour. It might be something else that makes the 6600 fail.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm...I checked the UserAgents at my site http://peffis.com and I got 5 messages there from a user who has a 6600. At least according to the UserAgent string. One message is for instance here: http://peffis.com/message.php?mid=1050

The UA string for that Nokia (which obviously work) is the following:
Nokia6600/1.0 (3.42.1) SymbianOS/7.0s Series60/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.0

Is the firmware version (or UA string) different on the phones that it fail on? In that case Nokia has perhaps some version which is either broken or that I don't handle well but it seems some 6600 works at least.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there are any test you'd like me todo on my 6600, please let me know!

Willing to work together to see if we can crack this - my network charges too much to send MMS messages via their servers!

many thanks


Matthew
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, to begin with I assume your setup works with other phones right? Just so that it's not a problem with the setup. You could also try it out against peffis.com if you like as I know that one is setup properly. But if it works with other phones then I assume it must be something with the Nokia.

Next step is to check your connection of course. Have you had a setting with that operator and with another phone and made it work with the same settings? If you have then we will have to go through it in more detail.

I don't know if you are a PHP coder but if you are you could simply just change the send.php so that it just dumps everything that it gets - like writing the HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA variable to a file and as many server variables as you can think of to another file (especially important are the $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'] and $_SERVER['CONTENT_TYPE'] variables).

But if you are not a coder (there are plenty of nice people who are not Smile ) I might write such a dump script and later tell you to try and post towards that script. Let me know what you prefer.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have made the changes to the server that mrh2002 uses. I now await him to try and send a message!

Then I can send you the logs.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you let me have an email address to send the files to?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, no matter what settings we try, the mms message just sits in the out box on a continual retry loop. It never hits the server.


Will keep trying.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see, then there is probably a network error then of some sort. Have you had any other phone working with that operator and with those settings? Many times it seems that you have to change wap-profile as well and not only MMSC as the wap-gw that the operator gives you for MMS is often configured to only be able to access the operator's MMSC. If your operator gives you another wap-gw for regular wap-traffic then try and use that one instead.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My phone (T610 also on orange) works fine!

We have tried various apn's with no success.

We will try again later
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:20 am    Post subject: nokia 6600 Reply with quote

So there are more people having troubles using mmsdiary with the Nokia 6600. Is the mms-format used by that phone different so that the script cannot deal with it? Is there a solution?

BTW: thanks for this great script!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what the problem is with the Nokia 6600. The problem cases I've heard of is that the message does not get through to the script at all so there is nothing to work on - a communication setup issue. But perhaps you have another problem description? Anything in the access logs? I cannot test it myself as I only have access to SonyEricsson terminals. I also recall seeing posts to http://peffis.com using a 6600 as UserAgent so I think it works for some people with some operator's at least.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mms does get through. The content type is correct and I can write the HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA to a file, together with the _SERVER variables. But I can't see anything strange or unusual. Can I mail you those files so you can have a look?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, then there definitely might be something unique in the message. Yes you can email them to me - especially the raw binary data. It's easy for me to see what's goes wrong if there is anything that goes wrong in the parsing.
My email address can be read at http://hellkvist.org/images/address.jpg

Thanks for the help...
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